Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

05/09/2007 04:00 PM Senate RESOURCES


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 186 SPORT FISHING GUIDE RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 186(FSH) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Time Limit May be Set> --
+ HB 176 CREATE FORT ROUSSEAU CAUSEWAY PARK TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Time Limit May be Set> --
+ HB 165 BIG GAME GUIDES AND TRANSPORTERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Time Limit May be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
           HB 176-CREATE FORT ROUSSEAU CAUSEWAY PARK                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS announced HB 176  to be up for consideration. [CSHB
176(RES)  was  before  the committee.]  He  asked  Representative                                                               
Wilson to give them a brief background on the park.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:08:40 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  PEGGY WILSON,  sponsor  of HB  176, replied  that                                                               
during World  War II  the Army  wanted to  have a  defense across                                                               
Sitka in case the Japanese came  back. So, they connected 800 ft.                                                               
of  causeway from  one island  to another  and to  this day  many                                                               
historical  artifacts are  still  there -  like an  anti-aircraft                                                               
gun,  bunkers and  ammo magazine  structures.  This causeway  has                                                               
already been added to the  National Registry of Historical Places                                                               
and  has been  designated  as  a landmark  by  the National  Park                                                               
Service. This bill  makes sure that it becomes  the Fort Rousseau                                                               
Causeway State Historical Park.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  who Rousseau  was. When  no one  knew the                                                               
answer,  he added  that  he  was the  commander  of the  American                                                               
troops when Sitka became a part of the United States in 1867.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  said Alaska  doesn't have many  areas that                                                               
go  back  to WWII  and  this  bill  is  trying to  preserve  this                                                               
history.  She explained  that  Sitka Trail  Works  was awarded  a                                                               
federal grant  of $140,700 to  begin work on renovating  the Fort                                                               
Rousseau Causeway  and $60,000  of the grant  money was  given to                                                               
the State's  Historical Preservation Office in  the Department of                                                               
Natural Resources (DNR)  to pay for site  mapping, culture survey                                                               
and  inventory work;  another  $14,000  was used  for  a phase  1                                                               
environmental  assessment.   Another  federal  trails   grant  is                                                               
pending   for  this   project  in   the  federal   transportation                                                               
legislation for 2008 and 2009.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She said the causeway business  plan shows modest tourism dollars                                                               
of around  $12,000 per year at  first. As the program  grows, the                                                               
budget will be  about $16,800 per year which  would eventually be                                                               
supplanted by  tourism dollars with  an additional  $20,000 going                                                               
into the general  fund to be used for other  parks. She explained                                                               
further that  the idea  is to  take tourists  back and  forth and                                                               
there is no way to get to the island except on a boat.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGGINS asked  if that  was what  the "boat  charter costs                                                               
associated with  assessing the  site" referred  to in  the fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CLIFF STONE,  staff to Representative Wilson,  explained that the                                                               
fiscal note  is based  on what  it would take  DNR to  manage the                                                               
site. He thought  that need for the fiscal note  would go away as                                                               
tourist dollars supplanted it.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GREEN and SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI joined the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS said  he knew of a proposed boat  launch in a state                                                               
park that had a fiscal note of $100,000 just to run it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE commented,  "It depends on whether  they like the                                                               
project or not."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE  added that this is  not done very often;  the folks in                                                               
Sitka know it's a special occasion.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS  asked if  he had  heard of  any opposition  to the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE replied no and that he had a packet full of support.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS asked if it's on the National Register.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE replied yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:15:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked  if the community is already  used to those                                                               
rules since it's already designated as a park.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  replied  that   it  is  designated  as  a                                                               
historical place right now by the National Park Service.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE   EBERHARDT,  Superintendent   for  Southeast   Area  Parks,                                                               
Division of  Parks and Outdoor Recreation,  Department of Natural                                                               
Resources  (DNR), explained  that  being listed  on the  National                                                               
Historic Register requires  the land manager to  abide by certain                                                               
rules  to preserve  the  resources. That  land  currently is  not                                                               
managed as  a park unit.  Actually the  DOT has been  managing it                                                               
with the  FAA and  its use  has been  very restricted  because of                                                               
9/11 and airport security issues.  Its management will be changed                                                               
from general state land to state park statutes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:19:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE  said she  wanted more  clarification on  page 3,                                                               
lines 19  - 21, where it  says the commissioner may  designate by                                                               
regulation incompatible  uses within  the land  and water  of the                                                               
Fort  Rousseau Causeway  State Historical  Park.  She was  afraid                                                               
that regulations would  be written that were  never intended. She                                                               
asked if "land and water" meant fishing, for instance.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. EBERHARDT responded that all  water was purposely left out of                                                               
the bill except where the dock is  so as to not create a conflict                                                               
with existing fisheries.  The bill concerns only  the uplands and                                                               
doesn't go into  the park and local citizens have  not voiced any                                                               
objections.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:21:28 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON added  that  the land  itself  used to  be                                                               
connected to the airport, but it was  cut off in the 80s when the                                                               
airport was built. You can't walk or drive there.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS asked  what activities are going  on presently that                                                               
anyone would protest.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON replied  that the land is too  close to the                                                               
airport to have shooting.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked what would happen if this bill didn't pass.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  replied that there are  lots of volunteers                                                               
who would try to keep up preservation of the area.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS announced that HB 176 would be held in committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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